Original: I don’t agree with Lukianoff or Haidt when they say that colleges are setting students up for failure. Dweck would say that Lukianoff and Haidt are suffering from a growth mindset. In “The Coddling” by Lukianoff and Haidt, they say, “But vindictive protectiveness teaches students to think in a very different way. It prepares them poorly for professional life” (para 8). I completely disagree with this quote because most of the people who are being protected from these sensitive subjects have already had to deal with the sensitivities outside of college. It’s not like they would be hearing these words for the first time, but having these protections can lead others by example, especially the work industries. Many students who are in college are already struggling with anxiety and depression because this is the time where they finally get to understand themselves and who they truly are. It’s not like having these protections up can do more harm, if anything it should cause less stress. This relates to how Dweck talks about fixed mindsets. In Carol Dweck’s “The power of believing that you can improve” she says, “their [fixed mindset people] intelligence had been up for judgment” (Dweck para. 2). I believe what Dweck is saying is that people with this mindset have a hard time changing their perspective and agree to something new. That is why Lukianoff and Haidt are struggling to understand this new way of thinking in colleges and other institutions. They are used to an older way of thinking and believe that everyone has to experience difficulties, instead of hoping that this could lead to less for everyone.
Revised: I don’t agree with Lukianoff or Haidt when they say that colleges are setting students up for failure. Dweck would say that Lukianoff and Haidt are suffering from a growth mindset. In “The Coddling” by Lukianoff and Haidt, they say, “But vindictive protectiveness teaches students to think in a very different way. It prepares them poorly for professional life” (para 8). Protecting students from certain sensitivities is not setting them up for failure. Students are still learning, becoming adults as they grow to be the most prepared for their job of interest. Most of the people who are being protected from these sensitive subjects have already had to deal with the sensitivities outside of college. It’s not like they would be hearing these words for the first time, but having these protections can lead others by example, especially the work industries. Many students who are in college are already struggling with anxiety and depression because this is the time where they finally get to understand themselves and who they truly are. It’s not like having these protections up can do more harm, if anything it should cause less stress. This relates to how Dweck talks about fixed mindsets. In Carol Dweck’s “The power of believing that you can improve” she says, “their [fixed mindset people] intelligence had been up for judgment” (Dweck para. 2). I believe what Dweck is saying is that people with this mindset have a hard time changing their perspective and agreeing to something new. That is why Lukianoff and Haidt are struggling to understand this new way of thinking in colleges and other institutions. They are used to an older way of thinking and believe that everyone has to experience difficulties, instead of hoping that this could lead to less for everyone.
In this paragraph, I revised my view after the Lukianoff and Haidt quote. Instead of going right into my opinion without meaning, I changed it to an opinion that supports my claim and where I stand on the topic.
Original: I believe that Dweck has a very optimistic approach to learning, but I agree with Lukianoff and Haidt about how to teach critical thinking. In Lukianoff and Haidt’s “The Coddling” they voice, “Don’t teach students what to think; teach them how to think” (Coddling para. 7). This quote says that students need to engage in beliefs that may challenge their own. They need to be able to understand both sides to then make a clear decision on which side they take. This will allow for a more critical way of thinking. This will cause discomfort to some students, but that can be a good thing, as long as it isn’t harsh or triggering. Dweck on the other hand, in her Ted Talk, says, “But if you get the grade “Not Yet”, you understand that you’re on a learning curve” (Dweck para.1). She seems to be on the right path when thinking about students and their sensitivities, but when it comes to critical thinking, I don’t believe this method is the way to go. Yes, this may give students more confidence which is always a great thing, but how can these little changes in wording allow students to develop the skills they need when older. A lot of the time a student’s boss will not give leeway if they do something wrong. If students get too used to this “not yet” learning, they may become sensitive to people who treat them differently. This approach seems to be borderline childish which is not what students necessarily need. They do need some sort of structure and confidence in their own opinions to make it in the world.
Revised: I believe that Dweck has a very optimistic approach to learning, but I agree with Lukianoff and Haidt about how to teach critical thinking. In Lukianoff and Haidt’s “The Coddling” they voice, “Don’t teach students what to think; teach them how to think” (Coddling para. 7). This quote says that students need to engage in beliefs that may challenge their own. They need to be able to understand both sides to then make a clear decision on which side they take. This will allow for a more critical way of thinking. It may cause discomfort to some students, but that can be a good thing, as long as it isn’t harsh or triggering. Dweck on the other hand, in her Ted Talk, says, “But if you get the grade “Not Yet”, you understand that you’re on a learning curve” (Dweck para.1). She seems to be on the right path when thinking about students and their sensitivities, but when it comes to critical thinking, I don’t believe this method is the way to go. Yes, this may give students more confidence which is always a great thing, but how can these little changes in wording allow students to develop the skills they need when older. A method that shows students they aren’t quite there yet, could be good for younger students. If students get too used to this “not yet” learning, they may become sensitive to people who treat them differently. As a young adult, hearing “not yet” may just frustrate them even more. People need some sort of structure and confidence in their own opinions to face whatever challenges may arise.
In this paragraph, i cut out some unnecessary sentences that didn’t show which side I was supporting. I also gave some examples that may become apparent if students get too used to the “not yet” learning method. I think that it could be good for younger students but not older.
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